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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-03-30 19:37:54 EST
From: jcampbel@MNSINC.COM (John Campbell)
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Christy Bales wrote:
>--I have a school project and I have to find problems that a person who is deaf might encounter. I already know some but I need some more ideas. Here are a few examples of what I am looking for- A person getting shot by a police officer because they did not hear what he said; flooding of a house because they can't hear the water running. If anyone knows where I can get more ideas please contact me. Thank you! Christy Bales>

Number one: accomodations

Other problems:

John Campbell, Herndon, VA
jcampbel@mnsinc.com

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-03-30 22:45:53 EST
From: myrtlebeachsc@JUNO.COM (George A. Adams III)
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George A. Adams III
email: MyrtleBeachSC@juno.com

Since you cannot be accessible while a flood or any diaster, I wonder if you ever consider having a high technology ADT alarm system connected to the police dept. who monitor the emergency needs 24 hrs. a day and 7 days a week. Something else you can consider to have TV medias to have line 21 to warn for emergency for any diaster. Who is going to do this?? Of course, you will have to educate the public about your needs. That's the only way we can let public be aware of your needs during emergency. Contact the City Hall, County, or the State govt. to see if they can provide you better services. If the TV stations don't have line 21 or Closed Caption, then you better start writing letters and make your point clear to them. In SC we have prepardness for Hurricane, we had to educate the public concerns of how to let the deaf know when to evacuate the areas. The public will not do anything unless you go out and tell them your concerns. It is all deaf or hard of hearing's responsiblity to educate the public. Another thing you can get any kind of device for door bell light singaler to warn you that someone is at the front door. You can contact Harris communication for the door light signalers. I had been lobbying the 3 city halls, county and the state govt. about these concerns.

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-03-31 00:21:36 EST
From: martincrew@JUNO.COM (Robert Martin Jr.)
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A fire truck in front of my house putting out a fire in a car across the street and I didn't hear the siren or engine of fire truck. A smoke alarm goes off and I'm still sleeping and I'm partily blind too. I heard story of a father [deaf] who put a baby in the bathtub and left the room for a reason and the baby is dead because the water was too hot , he did not drown . My child is yelling for help in the dark I can't locate the direction of sound either .

Years ago I was at work and very bad storms came. The siren for the tornado when off , and my wife called work , and work didn't understand what the big deal was, later Marsha talked with the boss and explained if coworkers pull Bob down to the floor, he would follow the instructions , because co-workers are alway fooling around about how he would know from the real thing or prank, now they draw an X on my back , they say it's a good idea .

I hope this will help, Bob Martin signing out . May God be with you always.

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-06 23:22:34 EDT
From: snapshots@JUNO.COM (C E Katz)
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>Common sense, if you're deaf, NEVER leave your baby in the bathtub alone and it's your responsibility to watch every move your baby made.>

I'd like to add to that. Common sense, if you're *anybody* taking care of a baby, NEVER leave the baby in the bathtub alone..........

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-06 23:30:20 EDT
From: heartmkr@HEART.HEART.ROCHESTER.EDU (Michelle Riera)
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To whoever heard the story of a father's baby. They make it sound like his own fault because he's deaf. That is NOT true. He's not paying any attention to the temperature and now that is his OWN fault. Common sense, if you're deaf, NEVER leave your baby in the bathtub alone and it's your responsible to watch every move your baby made. I bet he left his baby for more than 15 mins, orr use an excuse that he was deaf. Not!

Another story, of a deaf lady who babysat with a deaf child. She put her in the bathtub while running the water. A dog was bugging at the lady. So she went to outside to let the dog out and light up her cigs. The child's father came home (just in perfect timing) and saw her daughter in the bathtub full of water spilled all over the bathroom. It destroyed the floor and cubboard that needed to be replace it. Of course, she got fired immediately. *I don't get it. What the earth is she thinking??? I know it's not because she's deaf. She's not being a responsible person.

Being a deaf person with problems is not an excuse. If there are something you can not do or need help. It's your responisible to know ahead of time. Period.

> A fire truck in front of my house putting out a fire in a car across the street and I didn't hear siren or engine of fire truck. A smoke alarm goes off and I'm still sleeping and I'm partily blind too.>

Why not hook up a flashing smoke alarm?

> I heard story of a father [deaf] who put baby in the bathtub and left the room for a reason and baby is dead because the water was too hot ,he did not drown.>

> My child is yelling for help in the dark I can't locate the direction of sound either.>

Ask for help and run faster to look for your child.

> Years ago I was at work and very bad storms came. The siren for the tornado when off , and my wife called work , and work didn't understand what the big deal was, later Marsha talked with the boss and explained if coworkers pull Bob down to the floor, he would follow the instructions , because co-workers are alway fooling around about how he would know from the real thing or prank, now they draw an X on my back , they say it's a good idea . >

I am not sure if I understand about bad storm but I'll say it anyway. On your first day of a job, you must let your boss know that if there are some problems at work or weather. It's your boss responsible to let you know what happened. It's not even funny if they have fooled around before.

Michelle

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-03-31 12:06:36 EST
From: masci@earthlink.net (Diane Bolles-Masci)
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Being trapped alone in an elevator is bad too. Wouldn't it be great to have a totally accessible house? A deaf person I know had her house designed so that at least three walls in each room contained a glass panel. This allowed her to see the door from any room in the house.

Diane

Why do they have braille at drive up ATMs anyway? :)

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-03-31 12:06:36 EST
From: Tlshell@CONCENTRIC.NET (Roving Reporter)
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So blind people with chauffeurs (or in cabs) can use them.

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-02 17:09:20 EST
From: baker@UTDALLAS.EDU
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Relays are a bit awkward to use. The operator probably appears more transparent to the tty user than the voice party. Maybe there will someday be a strong need for keyboards on voice phones in the future so tty's are in every home and tty's are more affordable.

On Wed, 2 Apr 1997 wilona1@AOL.COM wrote:

> However, as a home based business owner, it really bothers me when folks ignore my statement that I am deaf - they expect me to be able to talk to them over the phone and hang up if I call via relay, saying they want to speak directly to me (without the relay) - and they don't have TDD/TTY!!! They assume that all business owners are hearing. (That is, most businesses in general.) >

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-02 19:00:57 EST
From: myrtlebeachsc@JUNO.COM (George A. Adams III)
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Dear whoever concerned:

I totally agree with you about the problems of Relay operators. But if you are hearing, you can hear alot of rudeness and impoliteness with the tone of their voices to hearing people when they use the Relay. My two daughters despise using Relay, because most of time operators are rude and not polite. They can cause some confusion in communication. One time I called my mother up through Relay, my mother mentioned a big word, she didn't know how to spell it, then the operator didn't know how to spell the word either, so it caused backfire. Alot of time operators cannot spell the words correctly on TTY.

I wish there is some way on the TTY display we can see what the operator says to the other party after we type to sentence on the display. We don't have any proof if they say everything we type. It might be a good notion to request the Relay operator to type everything repeatly of what they told the third party. Just to make sure they follow what you say. Something to think about. I don't know can it be done. It would be nice to have two displays on TTY, so the Relay opr. can type the sentences that you already type in beforehand when Relay opr. relay the message to the third party.

I have to put up with them alot. You don't believe it they earn excellent salary to be Relay operators. If we are going to pay that kind of good salary, there ought to be excellent Relay oprs.

I am dying to see a computer one day to take the message from the TTY and convert into real voice to a hearing person and relay back and forth. Can it be done?? Sure. They have computers out there that can talk, but I don't know if they have enough sense to receive the message through voice to convert to TTY messages. I hope one day it will come true. Maybe it will start off with alot errors, then later on, will smooth itself more effectively.

I called the County Library one time, asking for address. The Relay operator gave me the wrong address, then I mailed it and got returned mail. It happend twice.

Thank You,
George A. Adams III
April 2, 1997 4 p.m.

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-03 01:15:05 EST
From: gfab@LOOP.COM (Gerry Fabulich)
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In article <19970402011200.UAA01473@ladder01.news.aol.com>, stacie222@aol.com (Stacie222) wrote:

> And many people still don't even know that yes, Deaf people CAN drive!! People don't believe me!>

Maybe it will pay to advertise our skills and problems.

A businessman has an accountant who is deaf. One day, the businessman is looking through his books, when he notices that there is $50,000 missing from his bank account. Concerned, he confronts his accountant about the money, however the accountant cannot hear, cannot read lips, and the businessman can't use sign language. So, the businessman hires an interpreter.

The businessman says to the interpreter, "Ask him what happened to the $50,000", so the interpreter signs the message to the accountant, the accountant signs back, and the interpreter says to the businessman, "He doesn't know what happened to the money."

"I don't believe him", says the businessman, "Ask him again". So, once again, the interpreter signs the message to the accountant, the accountant signs back, and the interpreter says to the businessman, "He doesn't know what happened to the money."

Frustrated, the businessman opens his desk drawer, and pulls out a revolver. The businessman says to the interpreter, "Tell him to tell me where the money is, or else I'm gonna blow his head off!".

So, the interpreter signs the message to the accountant. The accountant signs to the interpreter "Okay, Okay, I took the money! I buried it in a tin can under the cherry tree in my backyard!"

The interpreter turns to the businessman and says "He doesn't know what happened to the money". :-)

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-03 05:42:53 EST
From: patricia.chambers@BBC.CO.UK (Patricia Chambers-Education)
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I drive too and get people responding the same way as they have to you.

Also, I once was working for a manager who nearly fell off her chair when she discovered I sometimes ride to work on my bike (12 gear push-bike). When I asked her what was wrong with me riding a bike (thinking perhaps she was just concerned about the crazy and dangerous traffic in London) she spluttered "..but but but .. you ... are ... deaf... how can a deaf person possibly ride a bike or even be allowed to?" ! ! ! ! !

PC
BBC, London

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-03 06:39:06 EST
From: masci@earthlink.net (Diane Bolles-Masci)
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I completely agree. I prefer to e-mail, fax, or ctc (computer to computer) as much as I can. I realize it is difficult for operators to type verbatim. I just wish they would state so if they can't. Otherwise I am not getting the complete message from the other party. Anyway, my husband is hearing and he prefers I not call him "honey" or some such because it's unsettling coming from a male operator! LOL....

Diane

> Relays are a bit awkward to use. The operator probably appears more transparent to the tty user than the voice party. Maybe there will someday be a strong need for keyboards on voice phones in the future so tty's are in every home and tty's are more affordable. >

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-03 08:12:23 EST
From: baker@UTDALLAS.EDU
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Yes, It would be nice if the hearing person could dial a 'male' relay phone number or a 'female' relay phone number. I suppose Diane's husband could have just asked the male operator to talk in a high-voice! :)

Scott

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-03 15:27:44 EST
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I LOL when I read this too! I don't know how it is in your state, but here in Florida when the relay operator answers, they always give their ID #, then either (M) or (F) so I know if it's a man or woman doing the relay and can adjust my conversation if needed. Of course if I didn't know M/F it might be very different.

Martha E. Knowles --- Wilona1@aol.com
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Spring unlocks the flowers to paint the laughing soil.

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-03 20:26:51 EST
From: masci@earthlink.net (Diane Bolles-Masci)
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Incredible...

I've been on swim teams for the majority of my life. The most common question in regards to swimming is, "But how can you swim with those hearing aids? Don't you get electrocuted?!"

I've even been asked if deaf people know how to have sex. Sheesh... all this sharing of experiences goes to show how sadly the hearing world is misinformed about deaf people.

Diane

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-03 21:14:50 EST
From: src8@EPIX.NET (Steve Cox)
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> I wish there is some way on the TTY display we can see what the operator says to the other party after we type to sentence on the display. We don't have any proof if they say everything we type. >

I use VCO (Voice Carry-Over) At least the party I'm calling does not miss understand me (as far as I'm the one speaking :) My wife likes it to since our conversations go twice as fast. The relay only needs to concentrate on typing what the person being called is saying...and of course my GA(go-ahead) cue's

If you speak fluent English you should use VCO...takes a lot of pain and time out of typing every thing you want to say...people tell me they like hearing my voice when I call :)-

Mailto:steve.cox@lmco.com -related to deafness or business
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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-04 01:58:33 EST
From: masci@earthlink.net (Diane Bolles-Masci)
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The one I grapple with is "Can you hear yourself when you talk?" Do I answer "yes" because I can hear the sounds and loudness I make while wearing my hearing aids? Or do I answer "no" because I can't hear without my hearing aids nor can I hear the fluctuations? I think what they really mean is .... if I were a hearing person, would I understand Diane? ;p

Please do share!

Diane

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-04 10:46:06 EST
From: myared@SMTP.AED.ORG (Michael Yared)
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MD and VA relay allow you to ask for a female or male CA. It is useful if you call your doctor or some other personal things that someone from the same gender only will understand. A friend a few years ago told me her father was embarrassed when the male CA said "I Love you".

But the problem when calling the relay, they will often said, number calling please, and when I give the number, the CA will then type (0012) F without knowing in advance. Maybe asking for a female or male CA will work first.

Mike Yared

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-05 10:47:50 EST
From: ALAMA10@HUMAINB.HOWARD.EDU (David James)
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Diane Bolles-Masci :

> The one I grapple with is "Can you hear yourself when you talk?" Do I answer "yes" because I can hear the sounds and loudness I make while wearing my hearing aids? Or do I answer "no" because I can't hear without my hearing aids nor can I hear the fluctuations? >

Try, "Not usefully."

> I think what they really mean is .... if I were a hearing person, > would I understand Diane? ;p

Or it might be simple curiosity. If I've been asked that question and the person wants to know more, I explain that even with my hearing aid I can't hear most speech sounds at all, no matter how loud they might be, and that I speak by feel thanks to years of speech therapy. By this point the conversation invariably turns to more interesting topics.

--David James
ALAMA10@HumainB.Howard.edu

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-07 17:20:52 EDT
From: nospam@BOLINGBROKE.COM (Ken Bolingbroke)
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While I was living in Utah, I had personalized license plates on my car that said "I'M DEAF" I got a fair number of strange looks from other drivers. :-) Probably many of them thought I was joking, but perhaps it helped some people realize that yes, deaf people *can* drive. It sure helped when the police pulled me over once, he was already writing everything down on a notepad for me to read even before he got to my window...

Ken Bolingbroke
nospam@bolingbroke.com <--To email me, replace 'nospam' with 'ken'.

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-08 17:13:10 EDT
From: bwelsch@NDE4.NDE.STATE.NE.US (Brent Welsch)
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I have a friend here in Nebraska who has a license plate on her car that says "SIGN4ME". Goes along with the license plate mentioned below. My friend says she got it because she wanted to raise awareness about deafness.

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-08 20:56:51 EDT
From: j.boutcher@JUNO.COM (Jean Boutcher)
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I do not say, "I am deaf," to hearing strangers. Instead, I explain to them via pen-pad (PP) that I am unable to hear or speak and use PP for communication purposes. They would know immediately that I am deaf. If I wrote on pad that "I am deaf" or "Sign for me," that would look "Greek" to them. My deaf parents always used PP during the pre-ADA interpreting service, and I emulated them without being taught to do so.

B-

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-09 15:49:18 EDT
From: masci@EARTHLINK.NET (Diane Masci)
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Jean,

Is this a writing tablet or are you using an electronic one such as a Newton? I love those!

Diane

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-09 16:29:58 EDT
From: myrtlebeachsc@JUNO.COM (Kristaine M Adams)
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I had learned a hard lesson using PP, whenever I meet a doctor or any agency, it will harm other deaf who prefer qualified interpreters. From now on I don't use PP, I request a qualified interpreter anywhere I go. But you have to provide the information in where to get a qualified interpreter to any agency and then urge them get you a qualified interpreter. Once you use PP, then it makes harder for other deaf/HH to get qualified interpreter afterwards. I had been through this hard trail so many times. DOJ had urged me to use qualified interpreter to make other agency hire and pay for the interpreter's fee. So you go to the Dentist, or get your eyes exam, it is not free, they charge you a fee. I always consider for other deaf in the future if he wants an interpreter. Another thing writing on pad doesn't express emotional, mood and attitude from a flat piece of paper. I want to see the mood, attitude, and emotional from a qualified interpreter, so all those with sign language will give me a clear understanding. Something to think about: what about alot of deaf who get confused when communication with his doctor. Not being able to understand hearing language and hearing not being able to understand deaf language. I always consider for all deaf's need is hiring a qualified interpreter. I went to doctor it took me 30 mins to communicate, with an intepreter it took less than 15 mins. Now my 3 Doctors realized that an interpreter is worth it to have to have clear communication. I always tell the deaf to hire qualified interpreters to get clear communication. If you use that PP, then it is going to make it harder for other deaf to hire qualified interpreters and pay for the fee. Something to think about. I know doctors and hospitals or any agencies will seek the cheapest way to communicate without cost.

George A. Adams
MyrtleBeachSC@juno.com

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-09 16:37:35 EDT
From: j.boutcher@JUNO.COM (Jean Boutcher)
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If the hospital in my area refused to switch from uncertified interpreters to professional ones with RID certificates, I would have to continue using PP. If allotted ample time, I always test the receptive skills of an interpreter by engaging in an idle conversation with him. Alas, more often than not do I find an uncertified interpreter to be weak in receptive skills. If he misinterpreted, it would be a matter of life or death.

B-

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-10 15:34:41 EDT
From: myared@SMTP.AED.ORG (Michael Yared)
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This reminds me of something. When I was at Gallaudet, several deaf Californians told the same story.

A woman woke up one morning to find everything in her apt. gone. All her furnitures, clothes, and everything just disappeared. Her door and window was broken in. The thiefs saw her car's stickers like "Proud to be deaf", "I am deaf" and something about deaf power. She was so deaf she couldn't feel anything around her.

While this can be hilarious, that was one of the problems encountered by deaf people.

Mike Yared

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Subj: Re: problems encountered by deaf people
Date: 97-04-10 16:32:17 EDT
From: masci@EARTHLINK.NET (Diane Masci)
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Jean,

I'm sorry I don't have the Newton anymore. I'd have given it to you. But yes, it comes in handy for a number of reasons. One is that you can store notes in a filing cabinet so they are easy to bring up without having to partake in redundant writing.

Hopefully most people would have the presence of mind to return the Newton stylus pen ;) My favorite feature was being able to download books and games into the Newton. If you can find the $$$ it is well worth it :)

Diane

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